(what it is and
how it can benefit you and your family)
Mary Helen
Gautreaux, RN
Mary Lou Hathaway, RN
Cliff Davis, D. Min.
Mary Helen
Gautreaux was formerly a nurse with The Elder & Disability
Law Firm, P.A., in Overland Park, Kansas.
Mary Lou
Hathaway, RN, BSN has been in the practice of hospice nursing
off and on for seven years.
Cliff Davis,
D. Min., is a Community Education Specialist. He has a doctoral
degree from seminary. His background is as a hospice chaplain,
but also a bereavement specialist and coordinator for hospice.
He has worked in hospice for eleven years, but has done pastoral
care and care for the dying for twenty-four years.
MHG: One
of the things I believe our clients have taught us this
is there are a lot of people who still do not know about
hospice, do not know about its availability, do not know what
it does or doesnt do, do not know if they can afford it.
So what we would like to do is invite either of you to begin
by telling us what the whole concept of hospice is.
CD: A lot
of people do not have the information that they need, and become
very frightened when they think in terms of hospice, and they
connect the word hospice with the word dying.
This is very unfortunate. In our society there is a strong connection
between the two. Thats really not what hospice is about.
We do care for people who are terminally ill for the last
six months of their prognosis, but even that now in the
legislature, theyre really taking a look at that. In particular,
with these kind of patients, thats difficult to know if
its six months away, so they are looking at that particular
piece again.
MHG:
So you are saying that if the populace understands hospice, the
general understanding is that it is for people who are supposed
to die within six months?
CD:
Thats right. Its the dying piece that has probably
gotten the most publicity. We do care for people who are in the
last part of their life, but its not just about the dying
process. Hospice is all about, and was based on the idea, that
everyone should have the opportunity to live as fully as possible
until the last moment they are here. Thats a direct quote
from Dame Cicely Saunders, who is the founder of hospice. It actually
began in the early 1900s, but in particular, in 1960.
MHG: So
hospice is about living fully, pain free, cared for, and loved
until the very end of your life.
CD: Absolutely.
And there have been many people who have said its one
of the most important times of their lives. Theyve been
able to say the things they needed to say, their relationships
have really been healed, so theyve been able to really
find the meaning of why theyve been here, if theyve
had the opportunity to do that. The tragedy is when thats
stolen from them, when they dont have the chance to really
have the time and the control to live this part of their life
the way they choose.
MGH: That
brings up a question, Cliff, and Mary Lou, you might speak to
that as a nurse who has no doubt spent some time at some point
in your career in hospitals. That brings up the question of
why hospice, considering what it offers an individual and their
families, is not brought up more often as one of the options
for terminally ill people. For example, I spoke with a woman
recently who said that she didnt know that her husband
with Alzheimers would be eligible for hospice. She thought
hospice was for people who were dying of cancer for example,
or some physical disease of that nature, and that, in fact,
although her husband is in the very late stages where hes
beginning to have problems with motor skills and even swallowing,
the concept of hospice has not been mentioned to her by either
her physician or a social worker at the hospital.
MLH: Certainly
theres a lack of education that hospice has been struggling
with from the very beginning back in 1980, and the role that
Cliff is playing as the Education Coordinator is a major role
that was developed early on in the hospice movement, simply
to inform the community and the helping community about the
availability of these options. I dont know that even to
this day, after 20 years of this kind of educational effort,
that the general information is out there. So unless a person
has had an experience with hospice through a neighbor or friend
or someone in their church, they frequently dont think
about it as an option. Physicians frequently are so concentrated
on managing symptoms of long-term diseases that they fail to
identify at what point the treatment is losing its effectiveness
or the patients condition is deteriorating to the point
that theyre not going to be able to maintain them indefinitely.
MHG: These
are men and women who have taken the Hippocratic Oath to save
life, so their focus continues today, not without exception
obviously, but in general, to be one of lets use
all the modern developments in medicine and technology that
are available to us to save life, and what were
talking about here is life at any cost? and even
questionable quality of life?
MLH: The
medical model works quite well for very acute onsets of illness
and for very traumatic situations injuries, things like that.
MHG: Meaning
situations that will resolve?
MLH: Yes,
we do well with those. We do well with an acute heart attack.
We do well with automobile accidents and things like that. We
can salvage and put people back together and have them live
pretty normally, with very little residual damage. But what
we havent faced up to is the chronic diseases that have
years and years of effect on the body and finally do weaken
the body to the point that the person cant survive any
longer. Recognizing the stages that people are going through
and at what point they are reaching an end stage of the disease
process is not well identified in the medical community. Each
time the person comes back for treatment or asks for treatment
or shows up with more symptoms, the attempt is to prolong life
and not always measure what the quality of that life will be.
We have policies in our institutions that support that. We have
an unwritten law that any person who ceases breathing or their
heart stops beating will be resuscitated, regardless of what
were bringing them back to. Our whole system is designed
around saving, prolonging, extending life, and not recognizing
that there are certain states of illness that are so devastating
that life cannot be prolonged with any quality. Thats
basically what hospice and the national hospice organization
have been about in the last few year trying to identify
how you know when a person is beginning to cross over into a
terminal phase, or an end phase.
MHG: Because
nobody blows a whistle and says, Okay, weve reached
a point where aggressive medical treatment should stop and we
should bring in the whole hospice team. Lets talk a little
bit about the fact that we know persons who are diagnosed with
progressive neurological diseases. In this case, were
talking about Alzheimers Disease. Lets break that
down. Its a disease of the nervous system which progresses,
usually over a long period of time. It can be two to twenty
years. I think the average is about ten years, but if its
early onset, which means that you were diagnosed with it under
the age of 50 or 60, then the progression is much more rapid.
Lets talk about that as a long-term chronic disease which
ends in death, and lets talk about the person with Alzheimers
and at what point hospice begins to be a viable alternative,
or at what point the loved one and the family should be looking
at hospice.
CD: The
shift, for us, is from curing to caring. All the support that
hospice offers, not just to the patient, but to the whole family
as well. At hospice, the patient and family are the unit of
care. We offer support to anyone that wants it during the course
of the illness, but also for the family members after the familys
death at least 13 months. A lot of emotional support
and grief support and things like that occur. Even when someone
is appropriate for hospice, at that point youre really
looking at what the values are. For us, seeing the fact that
someone cannot be cured does not mean failure by anyone
for the patient, family or physician but some physicians
or other medical practitioners are very much involved in the
acute medical model, which is cure and cure and cure and
keep trying to cure.
MHG: And
cure is the only success.
CD: So youre
continuing to try to cure, even up to the moment that they actually
die. Were saying, Wait a minute! There is that point
in time when curing may not be possible, but it does not mean
that the medical system has failed or stops. There is
are a tremendous amount of things that can still be done medically
and emotionally, physically, socially, spiritually, for that
person to have an incredible life until the last moment they
are here.
MHG: Lets
talk about two things that will be very important to the family
of a person who has Alzheimers or just the spouse or just
the child, because often its a singular situation with
only one family member. Sometimes theres no one, but usually,
a family or several persons are involved. That is number one.
The National Alzheimers Association tells us that 7 out
of 10 Alzheimers patients are cared for and die in their
homes. Lets talk about how those people who are not institutionalized,
but are obviously being treated sometimes with medication which
at some point fail, and we get into later stages where were
dealing with incontinence, both bowel and bladder, a lot of
personality and mood changes, exhausted care givers who are
unable to get a decent amount of sleep because the person with
Alzheimers tends to wander at night. When does that person
ask for help for hospice and how do they know to ask for hospice
help?
MLH: Because
hospice currently has this understanding that a patient has
to be within 6 months of death in order to qualify for the special
Medicare hospice benefit that is available, that 6 month clause
hampers the decision as to when an Alzheimers patient
or a dementia patient really needs the help. Frequently, the
help is actually needed before that time. What they have tried
to do within the hospice movement is define what a person is
like when they are within approximately 6 months of death and
have the diagnosis of Alzheimers. Some of the very specific
things we look for when we are trying to make that determination
are speech abilities generally we look for the loss of
language, perhaps down to maybe one word a day that repeated
and repeated, but no longer does the patient have the ability
to use several words.
MHG: So
often at this stage, the person would not recognize a loved
one and would be able to carry on no meaningful conversation,
but might repeat some words or untelligible phrases throughout
the day?
MLH: Yes.
Also, ambulation has been lost; theyre unable to walk,
unable to sit up without assistance, not able to smile.
MHG: Not
able to smile? Why is that a criteria?
MLH: Its
a stage and an indicator of the persons progression downhill.
I dont know the association, but generally, we find that
as people get more and more withdrawn, they are less able to
respond to their external stimuli. They will still, of course,
respond to pain, but not in the same facial expressions. They
are unable to hold their head up independently, and frequently
we see significant problems with swallowing. A patient who has
difficulty swallowing often gets into problems with things like
aspiration pneumonia, where they inhale some food into their
lungs and get pneumonia, or they have problems with urinary
tract infections and so frequently we see those two problems.
They may also have a catheter, due to incontinence or something
going on in that direction. One of the critical points for any
family is when this difficulty swallowing occurs. They must
then decide whether a feeding tube is appropriate or not. Its
undoubtedly one of the most difficult decisions that anyone
has to make, because basically, the condition of the patient
is not that different. Its just that being able to swallow
their food without choking on it is becoming increasingly difficult.
It doesnt necessarily mean that they dont try to
eat or dont appear to enjoy food. With a cancer patient,
its different. They generally are rejecting food because
it doesnt taste good to them and they dont want
to eat, and their losing weight. But thats not always
true of an Alzheimers patient.
MHG: Thats
helpful, because we said earlier that its hard to draw
lines for people about when to stop aggressive care. Youre
suggesting that certainly, one possible line is the one where
the person is beginning to have difficulty swallowing.
MLH: Yes.
Do you at that point introduce a feeding tube, which is what
most nursing homes or physicians would suggest?
MHG: A life-prolonging
measure.
MLH: Definitely,
with Alzheimers, it will cause their life to be extended.
MHG: Yet
this is a person who can no longer smile, can speak maybe one
word, cannot hold their head up.
MLH: Right.
So theyre in a very debilitated condition.
MHG: Would
they generally be bed-bound and have total muscular degeneration
at this time?
MLH: Yes.
MHG: There
were criteria in earlier years, and I know things have become
more difficult in terms of funding for Medicare, and this may
be too early a criteria, but what about the point at which the
persons being cared for at home and develops urinary and
bowel incontinence and begins to develop bed sores or ulcers?
MLH: Certainly,
home health advice and visits can be helpful to help set up
a program to try to avoid further deterioration of the skin
and to help the family decide what to do about the incontinence
problem and whether to use catheters or diapers or that kind
of thing. But a home health consultation is an intermittent
short-term visit. Its not a visit from a nurse whos
going to stay in the home for any long period of time. Private
duty nursing care is extremely expensive and not covered by
Medicare. Any kind of home health aid or a sitter is usually
not covered at all by Medicare. Thats probably one of
the most difficult times for the family and the time when the
least help is available. Once the patient becomes immobilized,
loses speech, etc., hospice then can be considered appropriate.
Theres that awful period in between when you cant
get very much in the way of home health service and there isnt
available funds for private duty. Medicaid, I believe, does
cover some assistance for sitters in the home and that kind
of thing.
MHG: Medicaid
will cover some, but there are financial qualifications, unlike
there are for Medicare, so thats an entirely separate
issue which we wont complicate this discussion with. I
am interested, though, because I have in front of me the guidelines
for hospice care for an Alzheimers patient as of two years
ago, and apparently those have changed. Two years ago, it was
the inability to ambulate without assistance, to dress or bathe
properly, urinary and fecal incontinence that was frequent or
constant, the inability to speak or communicate meaningfully,
and you were allowed half a dozen words, not just one. Also,
if you had other illnesses going on at the same time, like bed
sores, pressure ulcers that caused infection and so forth, all
of that together would qualify a person. It sounds like now
youre saying that person would go to a hospital if needed,
return home and be treated by Medicare, and that we have waited
until the later stages, which is appropriate, because hospice
has been defined as the later stages
MLH: One
of the issues that would make a difference, certainly, would
be things like aspiration pneumonia or kidney infections that
are frequent, because those alone will help speed up the process
of dying, certainly. If a person is having these secondary problems
that are a result of the difficulty swallowing and fluid intake
and that sort of thing, then certainly thats going to
shorten their life span. The issue gets to be, are you going
to treat those secondary infections very aggressively? For instance
if they get into serious pneumonia and need a ventilator, are
you going to progress to that? Or are you going to treat the
pneumonia with an antibiotic and hope that it gets better and
stop at that point? There are different levels of what we call
palliative or comfort care, and certainly
if the infection is causing discomfort, we would consider treating
that with an antibiotic as long as it would prolong a good stage
of life, but to progress on to a ventilator is beyond the scope,
generally, of comfort care.
MHG: I think
you brought up something extremely important that I want to
stress here, and that is that a lot of individuals who know
a little bit about hospice and believe it is for the care of
a dying patient, believe that it also means the patient is no
longer being cared for. They know theyre being kept clean
and comfortable, but theres a misconception that if antibiotics
help heal sores which are causing pain, then they can be used,
even though youre in a hospice situation, and that pain
medication is given, and in fact probably given much more generously,
than in the acute medical setting because we do not want persons
dying in pain if we can help it.
CD: The
goal at that point is for that patient and that family to have
the absolute best day they can today. Were going to be
very aggressive, actually, about pain management and symptom
control.
MHG: Let
me stop you and say that I am the wife or the daughter or the
son or the spouse, the husband of a loved one who has Alzheimers
and that person is no longer able to utter more than one intelligible
word a day, hold their head up. Theyre probably bedfast,
and they qualify for hospice and I know this. I call you. What
happens?
CD: Before
we directly answer that question, let me put a side note in
here. The average length of stay in hospice is between 20 and
40 days, and at around 30 days, where you may have a 6 month
benefit period, most people dont actually get into hospice
or be referred to us until the last 30 days or so. People, for
the most part, wait too long to even start talking about what
were talking about right now. It is never too early to
think about hospice, to get information about hospice. Youre
not signing up immediately. Youre just getting as much
information as you can, so that when the timing is right, the
support is ready to go. We work as a whole interdisciplinary
team, exactly for that patient and for you, as a family. We
offer a number of different kinds of support. When the referral
is made and the patient is admitted to hospice, at that moment,
we will stay with them, really giving them relief that they
are in desperate need of.
MHG: Can
you tell me, then, when you come to my house, and its
my husband, and its just the two of us, and you come and
youre going to take care of Harry. Help me! Ive
pretty much done what I can do, and I dont know how to
handle this part now. Mary Lou, youre a nurse, are you
going to come? Are you going to come, Cliff? Whats going
to happen? Whos going to talk to whom? Whos going
to do what? How long will you stay?
CD: These
are excellent questions.
MLH:
Those are very important questions, and another area thats
frequently misunderstood, and so its important to clarify
that. Basically, hospice care is designed to teach and educate
family members. If we were to receive a call from a family member,
neighbor, social worker, friend, to please come out and talk with
the family about hospice, one of the first things that we do is
call the physician to make sure that they are indeed in agreement
with this recommendation or suggestion that the patient become
a hospice patient. The reason we do that is that we need the support
of the physician in helping to order adequate medication
whether that be pain medication or medication for confusion or
breathing difficulties or anything like that. We need to be working
with the primary physician who is caring for the patient at that
time. So we do ask, not only for his agreement to follow the patient,
to be willing to sign the death certificate if the death should
occur at home, so that there does not have to be a lot of calling
of 911 and doctors having to go out and declare the person dead,
etc. We also ask the physician to sign a certificate that says
this patient is within 6 months of death, in his best judgment.
That allows the insurance company to kick in at a different level,
and well talk about reimbursement later.
At
that point, a nurse and a social worker, or a nurse or a social
worker a team or one person would come out to the
home and sit down and talk with the patient, the family members,
whoever is appropriate to be in on that interview, to determine
what the needs are, and to specifically seek the goals of the
family. What are the things that they see that are necessary to
provide comfort and as much quality of life as possible during
this difficult time?
We are a
multidisciplinary organization and we serve not only the patient
but also the family, and that family may consist of neighbors
rather than blood relatives, and thats fine. We deal with
significant others rather than husbands and wives sometimes.
Were very open in our identification of what family, but
basically, its the group of people that take on the job
of supporting that person in their illness. We consider that
group to be the people we are most concerned about. Frequently,
with an Alzheimers patient, because direct communication
is so difficult, we spend more time providing support and helping
to advise and teach family members than we would provide directly
to the patient. With a cancer patient who is lucid, that might
be different, but with most of our Alzheimers patients,
by the time we get them, they are not actively participating
in decisions regarding their care. We have to help families
to make those decisions, which can be quite difficult, and they
might need a lot of support and direction.
MHG: If
I hear you correctly, you do not come and stay to take care,
physically, of the person with Alzheimers, although you
come periodically and visit the patient and check up on things,
or when the family calls? You are doing a lot of work with the
family. When I say the family, it may be the spouse
of a heterosexual marriage, it may be the loved one, the significant
other of a gay or lesbian partner, it may be grandchildren who
have been caring for grandparents, and it may be, as in some
of the cases that we have seen, people who have no immediate
family, and it may be neighbors and friends. Well call
that group the family. It sounds like hospice helps
the family help the loved one to live life until the moment
of death, but that your effort is really going primarily, once
the basic physical medical needs like comfort and pain relief
are done, that youre dealing with issues like grief or
the family who has to deal with impending death and the feelings
surrounding that. Can you talk about that?
CD: We have
several priorities happening at the same time. It is always
a priority for the patient to be well cared for. So once those
things are taken care of, were always watching those things.
We want the very best quality of life for that person in their
own home, if thats where they are, or wherever they happen
to be. Were always assessing the physical needs. That
is one of the mainstays for the nursing piece in particular.
Always educating about the changes that are going on.
MHG: Would
you, on an initial visit, for example, set up a plan of care,
at least initially, for how often you come back?
CD: That
begins the moment hospice begins. That plan of care is very,
very significant to us, because it is tailor made for each and
every patient and family. This really depends on what you need
us to do to help you, and that help is only a phone call away.
Theres always someone on call. That, for many people,
is the great relief, that theyre not alone in this. You
cannot do this alone and still be healthy. It will devastate
the care givers.
MHG: You
mean in the middle of the night if I wake up and am overwhelmed
with grief and fear, that even on a holiday, that somebody is
available for me to call? Any family member, in addition to
the change in the physical condition of the patient?
CD: Absolutely.
The crisis happens. Thats exactly what hospice is there
for. Even for some of the nursing visits, its not uncommon
at all for the nursing visit to be an hour to two hours long
because the task part is the very first part only. Then the
nurse, social worker, the hospice chaplain, a hospice volunteer,
a hospice home health aid, will actually sit and visit and really
talk with whoever happens to be there, depending on what they
need, to give them support as well. This is a very isolating
kind of illness, and they really need that kind of support.
All of us are very specially trained in listening skills and
all the ways to support someone, not only the one whos
dying. We continue to interact with the patient. They are never
forgotten in the midst of this. We offer spiritual prayer to
the patient, to the family. If they have their own minister,
were going to respect that person thats going to
be their primary spiritual care giver. However, in some situations,
families dont always get what they need spiritually from
that person. Hospice chaplains are there, not to commit or judge
we have no agenda whatsoever to make anybody do anything.
We use a word like journey we literally want to
walk with that patient and their family all the way through
this, with them in charge. They are literally telling us what
it is that they need. To the best of our ability, thats
going to be the priority every single time.
MHG: Does
that change as things go on?
CD:
Yes, it can change every single day, between any visit.
MHG: Tell
me a brief story about a case youve done where it started
out one way and changed a little bit or a lot.
CD: A lot
of times, when hospice first comes in, they dont know
what to expect. So they may agree to the nursing visits and
are immediately surprised by how involved the nurse becomes
really looking over the physical symptoms. We need to
change this pain medication to something else. It he getting
relief from whatever has been done? Well, Lets make this
change. They are amazed at the tremendous advocacy that happens
with their own physician between the hospice nurse as an ally
to the family, to the patient. But they may not really understand
about the other team members that begin to come in, and they
may not really be aware of how stressful it is on themselves,
or that what were going to highly encourage them to do
is to take care of themselves. At first they may think they
dont really need a volunteer, but these volunteers are
trained to sit with somebody like this, to give the care giver
a break. They have been so involved in this so long they dont
realize they need a break! Its the normal routine to be
this stressed out, which is really unhealthy.
MHG: Well,
weve seen a number of care givers hospitalized and both
persons sent to a nursing home, because the care giver became
so ill. This is usually in the case of an elderly couple, whether
a traditional or non-traditional couple, that the one taking
care of the one who is supposed to be ill becomes ill also.
Youre telling me that where this is not available through
the hospital, and is sometimes, but not always, available through
local Alzheimers local chapters respite care where
they will pay for someone to come and sit a while and give the
care giver a break. Hospice has volunteers who will do this
and theyll do it on a regular basis?
CD: Yes.
It can be set up on a weekly basis for someone to come in for
a few hours. Many times the care givers will go out and get
their hair cut it may be the only time they can go to
the grocery store or to run their errands. Some of them simply
need to sleep. They need somebody there to make sure the patient
stays okay. Thats exactly the role of a hospice volunteer
for respite care.
MHG: So
you have a range of services that you will give, but its
the family who picks and chooses from the menu.
CD: Yes.
The nursing, of course, is the core of hospice care. If they
have their own minister, they may not need the chaplain. The
social worker is going to be pretty involved as well, not because
we want that person moved to another location. The social worker,
and all the way through the whole team is there literally to
listen to the family members, their grief experience, how theyre
actually doing. Thats what we want to know between every
visit, is how YOU are doing right now, and how we can help.
MLH: The
social workers also are familiar with all kinds of resources
in the community that some families are not aware of, so they
are constantly looking for other support mechanisms or financial
assistance or clothing needs. Sometimes well have a family
who is so destitute that we need people to donate items for
that family or donate food or things like that. We see some
pretty desperate situations. Its pretty easy to tap into
that in the hospice network, because people volunteer because
they want to help out. Theres a lot of ways people do
that. Sitting with patients and providing an opportunity for
the care giver to get out of the house or rest is a very important
part of hospice services.
MHG: Another
thing that strikes me is that it is very hard for a care giver
to deal with their own grief if theyre busy doing caring
tasks. I know myself, and most of us know of situations where
we go through a very, very difficult time, and then we fall
apart, as the expression goes.
MLH: Right.
You hold yourself together to get the job done, and thats
a very long time for an Alzheimers patient.
MHG: Were
not talking about short, acute illness here. Lets stress
that. We want to call in hospice even if its way too early,
because hospice will tell us if its too early and tell
us where to go.
CD: Theyll
also try to get you the help then. If its not appropriate
for hospice, well try to find other resources.
MHG: There
should be more respite care available to care givers along the
way, and hospice would be happy to be a source of information
for that?
CD: Absolutely.
Most people have such a tendency of not asking for help or being
uncomfortable about receiving help. Thats exactly what
we want to do and feel very called to do. Its not that
its just a job, we are that committed to caring for a
very special group of people. Part of the hospice philosophy
is very clearly to give back to these people the dignity they
deserve. This is not just about an illness. That is Harry in
the other room. And thats who were going to care
for, so that Harry has all the dignity he deserves, all the
way until the last moment hes here, but also that you,
as Harrys wife, have the support you need, even after
the death, so that you can find your life again when this part
of your journey together is over. Thats what we want to
honor, every single visit we make.
MHG: So
my life goes on, and Harrys life, which was always sacred,
comes full circle.
CD: No one
has failed. We just help make the transition.
MHG: Mary
Lou, is it a situation that you find Alzheimers patients
in pain when you go into hospice situations? Is that frequent?
MLH: Actually,
yes. The way we generally know that thats the case is
that, as were helping with baths or turning, we watch
very closely the facial movements. Any expression of frowning
or moaning or resistance and sometimes we can even narrow the
area down to a wrist that is terribly contracted or an area
that is uncomfortable from laying in bed. We work a lot on watching
for any sign of pain that might be there.
MGH: What
kinds of medications are used currently for an Alzheimers
patient that you sense has pain and you call the physician?
MLH: We
try to clearly identify, as much as possible, the source of
the pain, and if the pain is an inflammatory kind of pain from
joints or from soft tissue, then we would begin with things
like aspirin or Tylenol or appropriate medications that help
with inflammation. If the pain is a much deeper problem, such
as neuropathic pain or somatic pain, visceral pain, internal
deep pain, then we certainly have to go to stronger medications.
MGH: Can
you tell, for the lay person, how you would know about those
kinds of pain?
MLH: Basically,
neuropathic pain follows certain pathways of nerves and is usually
caused by some sort of pressure or damage to a nerve that could
in some ways be a result of contractures and drawing up of muscles
and tightening up of muscles and that kind of thing.
MGH: You
may also have a person where it may not be caused by Alzheimers
Disease, but who is older, and is lying in bed with compressed
discs or compression fractures from aging and having terrible
back pain and nerve pain and muscle pain and no one treating
it.
MLH: Yes.
A variety of types of pain can occur. There are certain medications
that are much more helpful with neuropathic pain, and dont
necessarily involve narcotics, but other types of effective
pain medication for those situations. Its a difficult
situation of analyzing, putting together all the clues that
you can, putting together the patients physical history
with the family, and doing a lot of what-iffing
and detective work, but discussing that with the physician to
see if you can come up with mechanisms that work for that patient.
Sometimes you have to do some trial and error, but generally
you start with the least difficult medications or the least
addicting medications and you work up from there. Certainly
when a patients life is limited, we have more options
available, more comfortably, within the medical community, to
use pain medication. Not to ignore the problems of tolerance
developing to the medication, we work with that constantly.
But basically, what we know is that if a person is in pain and
receiving pain medication, the problems of addiction are almost
non-existent. So its very important to continue to treat
the pain and allow the person to be as comfortable as possible,
and not to consider that, just because they are unable to communicate
with us, that they are not experiencing pain. That would be
a terrible disservice to be trapped inside your body and be
in pain and not have someone attempt to help.
MHG: Im
going to put you on the spot and ask you a question as a nurse,
because I know this occurs. I know that there are physicians
who will not prescribe certain amounts of pain medication they
consider addictive, and they may prescribe some, but they will
not prescribe enough. If you assess a person on a visit to still
be in a considerable amount of pain and cannot get the physician
to agree to prescribe that medication, will you seek another
physician so that the person can have pain relief? Have you
done that?
MLH: Certainly
the first step is to be very persistent with the chosen physician.
We consider the relationship of the patient and the doctor quite
sacred. Its a choice. Theyve chosen that person
to represent them and care for them, and were not there
to interfere in that relationship. On the other hand, a person
who is clearly unable to communicate, but expressing or obviously
experiencing pain, then our next step as nurses would be to
talk with our medical director, who is a full-time staff member
at hospice. We consult with team members about how we might
approach that problem. I have known our medical director, on
occasion, to call and talk with a primary physician about the
need for pain medication. Sometimes coming from a physician
who is known to be very good in their field, its easier
for a doctor to cooperate than it is when it comes from a nurse
that they might not know and might not trust.
MHG: Thats
a wonderful answer, and while I did mean to put you on the spot,
I did not, by any means imply that physicians want patients
to be in pain. The reality is that all of us have specialty
jobs that we do in our lives, and many of us are more up on
things than others, and all the current studies are that pain
is pain is pain, and that pain is unacceptable, and particularly
unacceptable to a person who is living out their last days.
CD: When
you talk specifically about pain, there are other options than
just the medicine for pain. In hospice we see all different
kinds of pain. Theres emotional pain the grief
experience itself is just incredibly intense: deep, deep feelings
that we really need to put a voice on and have somebody listen
to us. Thats why hospice works as a team, so there are
other people available also to come in to sit with the patient,
to rub the patients hand so they lower the anxiety level
for just a little bit.
MHG: Im
so glad you said that. One of the things I think and
Im not an expert on this but lets say that experts
say this, because weve read this is that people
in pain need to be touched and they need to be held. Maybe not
always, we all have our different styles. There may be a moment
in my grief when I need to be alone and separate, but theres
a moment when I want someone to put their arms around me.
CD: Were
all human beings, and we need that contact. There are other
benefits of hospice, not just the other team members that are
available, but also its part of the hospice benefit that
we provide the medical equipment thats necessary for that
patient. Thats part of whats covered by hospice.
Whatever medical equipment they need the bed, the over-bed
table, the wheel chair, oxygen if its ordered by the doctor
thats part of what were going to provide
to that family. Also whats covered is all the medicine
that patient needs thats related to the terminal illness
itself. Thats provided by hospice, paid for and delivered.
MHG: Is
there any use of alternative types of treatment like acupuncture
or acupressure or massage for pain relief that has been authorized
by Medicare?
MLH: One
of the wonderful things about the Medicare benefit is that we
dont have to ask them to authorize care. If a person is
under the hospice Medicare benefit, then we are reimbursed on
a daily basis and we can provide any type of care that we think
is appropriate, as long as the family is okay with that. One
of the things that is never covered under Medicare that I know
of, that we can provide, is music therapy. This is something
that very few agencies are able to have on staff because its
expensive and its not reimbursed. Because of the way we
are funded and the donations that come into us from families,
etc., we are able to have a music therapist full time on staff.
They spend a lot of time with children, they spend a lot of
time with people in nursing homes or in homes that are very
isolated. Music therapy is a very appropriate intervention for
dementia. One of the most wonderful things that I have seen
is that people who are completely withdrawn do not speak,
do not smile, do not have eye contact, you could never tell
if they knew you were in the room the music therapist
can come in, know what songs they responded to in their youth
or as a child or some family song they would sing on car trips
or something, and start playing that on a guitar or a keyboard,
and that person would start tapping their toe. So you knew they
had contact. You knew they made mental and emotional contact
with that human being.
MHG: So
whats so important about the all-embracing philosophy
of hospice is that, at any level that we can, we are making
contact with this person until the very moment of death, and
for the people who love that person long past the moment of
death.
MLH: Yes.
Acknowledging, affirming
MHG: You
said something I need to mention very quickly, which is, I want
to make it clear to the readers that all of these same services
are available to persons with Alzheimers who have already
been moved to nursing homes.
MLH: Yes.
CD: If theyre
in hospice, its available.
MHG: Thats
what I mean. Hospice will come into a nursing home and do the
same thing.
MLH: Yes,
they will provide additional care to what the nursing home is
already providing. The Medicare hospice benefit will cover that
kind of additional care.
MHG: You
mentioned Medicare a number of times. Who pays for this?
MLH: By
far, the majority of our patients are Medicare hospice patients,
and that means that they are usually either disabled or over
65 and have qualified for Medicare benefits by paying into the
Social Security system, and they have Part A of the Medicare
benefit. Part A is the part of the benefit that covers hospice
care. Some commercial insurance plans have a hospice benefit.
We may actually go in under the home health benefit, but we
provide the additional hospice services in those situations,
even though sometimes the insurance would not reimburse. An
example of that might be that even though, as a home health
patient, theyre only going to reimburse for perhaps the
nursing visits and the aide visits, and maybe a social work
visit, we would still, if it is a hospice-appropriate patient,
provide a chaplain and a music therapist.
CD: Thats
unique to our hospice. Were large enough to be able to
do that. We even have an art therapist.
MLH: Part
of that is because were big and have donations coming
in.
MHG: So
you actually provide services that are not reimbursed.
MLH: Definitely.
We have grants.
MHG: Does
Medicaid ever pay for hospice?
MLH: Yes,
Medicaid has a hospice benefit also. Its very similar
to the Medicare hospice benefit. Its reimbursed in a similar
manner on a daily basis and it also includes medications and
equipment that would not be covered under the regular Medicaid
or Medicare benefit. Medicaid, of course, is dependent upon
a familys basic income and you qualify by having a limited
income, so there are certain financial criteria.
MHG: I think
that weve come to a good place to end. Weve talked
about what hospice care is, weve discussed who qualifies
for hospice benefits, and who pays for those benefits.
But more
importantly, Mary Lou and Cliff, I want to thank you for giving
us a glimpse into the real mission of hospice..that each and
every person should have the opportunity to live as fully as
possible until we breathe our last breath. Youve shared
insights many of us did not have that the hospice team
of nurses, social workers, and ministers/chaplains are there
not only for our loved one, but also for our whole family...and
that no one will be denied hospice care because of inability
to pay.
Thank you
for helping to provide each of us what we ultimately need...
the opportunity to breathe our last breath in as much comfort
as is possible, surrounded by those we love.
*Note to
reader: Hospice also provides ongoing grief and psychological
support for 13 months after the passing of your loved one.
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